128 mb SmartMedia and Fav User Pacthes November 9 2001 at 12:33 PM
Okay, I want to finish up a couple threads that were started awhile back.
Firstly, I have heard from more than one person that a 128mb SM worked in the PS-02. Can anyone corroborate this?
Secondly, I really want to set up a way to share user patches, and hear what ya'll have created. I'd like to collect a bunch and compile them into a .pdf, and then post it.
And as a sidenote, the ps-02 absolutely ROCKS--it has blown away every musician I have shown it to, including two Phd. students at the music school of Indiana University. My roommate, a drummer, could not believe how good some of the drum sounds were. I WISH there was a PC-based utility to edit the drum patterns!
128MB cards work... with a minor caveat. I'm using several with no problem... moving data to and from my PC. I've successfully recorded the full 67 minutes of hi-fi mono(single track) audio, and about 34 minutes of stereo, that the specifications page (pg.85) of the Operations Manual eludes to. What's the caveat?? It looks like they've disabled the option to switch to lo-fi with a 128MB Card... or at least, I couln't get it to downshift. So, I could not record the 2 hours of lo-fi mono I anticipated. But I don't care! The darn thing is really cool and an hour of hi-fi is good enough for me. Especially since I can download to my PC and/or switch cards. Heck! I only paid $fitty bucks for 'em!! Also, when I recorded the above instances, my 128MB card was formatted with system v110 and had all of the system files, and I think the factory demo on it. So one may be able to pare it down and get another minute or two.
P.S.
Just to be anal, I read the full card from my PC and verified that the file sizes all added up to ~128MB!
Whoops!! Didn't mean 2 B anonymous!! 128MB Cards Work!!
November 10 2001, 7:08 AM
Hi!
128MB do cards work... with a minor caveat. I'm using several with no problem... moving data to and from my PC. I've successfully recorded the full 67 minutes of hi-fi mono(single track) audio, and about 34 minutes of stereo, that the specifications page (pg.85) of the Operations Manual eludes to. What's the caveat?? It looks like they've disabled the option to switch to lo-fi with a 128MB Card... or at least, I couln't get it to downshift. So, I could not record the 2 hours of lo-fi mono I anticipated. But I don't care! The darn thing is really cool and an hour of hi-fi is good enough for me. Especially since I can download to my PC and/or switch cards. Heck! I only paid $fitty bucks for 'em!! Also, when I recorded the above instances, my 128MB card was formatted with system v110 and had all of the system files, and I think the factory demo on it. So one may be able to pare it down and get another minute or two.
P.S.
Just to be anal, I read the full card from my PC and verified that the file sizes all added up to ~128MB!
Chris Hurley
Untitled
November 10 2001, 2:58 PM
This is truly good news. I think I may buy a 128mb and try it when I get my replacement PS-02. If it doesn't work, I'll swap it with the 64mb in my camera.
Yes
November 13 2001, 11:55 AM
Yeah. I got mine a week ago and I thought it came with a 32 mb sm card but it came with an 8 as you all know. The next day I went out and bought a 128 mb card and it has worked perfectly.
That's so cool.
November 13 2001, 1:33 PM
I thought it worked--I'm going to buy one soon. You can find them for less than $50--newegg.com has them for $49!
Now--can anyone email me some user patches? I'm trying to create a .pdf to post.
Mike
Untitled
November 13 2001, 3:41 PM
So far the score on 128Mb support (Y/N) is even.
San, (September 16) said he tried one and it worked through the span of a 64Mb card and then got un-stable.
Web Manager@ZOOM said 8,16,32,64 only, no 128 support.
Maybe it works but no one at Zoom tried it.
You and others said it works and you seem to have done a rather good accounting of your test. I would like others who have the 128Mb card to follow your test and see if a consensus can be reached.
One other point: You said you could not get the "Lo-Fi"
mode on for your test. I have forgotten from time to time that once a track is started, the mode cannot be changed without first erasing at least the track, if not the song completely.
At any rate I would like to hear more if these tests.
Chris Hurley
128MB works for me
November 19 2001, 10:17 PM
I just got a 128MB 'Mr. Flash' smartmedia card from newegg.com. It works fine in my PS_02 with the system software version 110. I recorded 34 minutes of stereo audio in HQ before it got full. It works in low or high quality modes.
I guess that means two full hours of mono LQ mode, which works great for recording a live band (for example)
Armin
What problems with 128MB
December 13 2001, 4:19 PM
I used my 128MB card for a long time. What problems are known? I would like to check it.
Tip:
I use WaveLab to convert mp3 files to wave and store them with the ps02 sampling rate. Wavelab can store them separatly for the left and right cannel.
Why buying a mobile mp3 player?
128 MB SmartMedia - not 100%
December 31 2001, 8:52 AM
I had a 128 MB Smart Media shipped to me, it was bought at Cosco fro approx. $ 60, the brand of the card is ScanDisk. I was excited because after formatting the card it worked. Then the disappointment, when recording until the very end (after about 65 minutes) the display goes blank and the PS-02 does not respond anymore. Rebooting the PS-02 brings back the system normally but from the 65 minutes of recording only the first 30 secs are left. Anybody has a suggestion for me? I formatted the new card using the load of the orginial system disk (version 1.00), I looked on the Zoom site, according to them the version 1.10 is the same as the 1.00 version except fo rthe demo song. I have not tried loading the 1.10 version since it seems pointless. Any tip is welcome. Cheers from Holland! Channan
Working 128mb Smartmedia
January 5 2002, 12:40 AM
Just wanted to add to the list of successful 128mb users. I bought one from my employer today and it formats and records successfully, and reports over 67 minutes of hi-fi room. The brand is Lexar Media and the cost was $58. As my ps-02 was a semi-early one (ser# in the 010000 range) then this should suggest no problems when the unit was built and whether it will use 128mb media.
Michael G
SO: What's the bottom line?
March 1 2002, 12:33 PM
It's been a little while since anyone's posted to this thread. I'll add another question to it.
- Can 128 MB SmartMedia be used successfully (i.e., consistently w/o error and to their capacity)?
- How is the Card Manager software working reliably? Any issues?
I'm on the verge of getting a PS-02 but would like to have definitive responses to these questions since I'd like to know 1) whether 128 MB or a couple 64 MB cards are better, and 2) if I can get audio from the PS-02 into an audio editor on my PC without hassle.
Thanks. This is a great forum w/ some great folks.
Huggy bear
As far as I can tell
March 1 2002, 12:51 PM
128 mb still seems up in the air, works for some, not for others. I'd go with 1 or 64mb cards. It's cheaper anyway.
"- How is the Card Manager software working reliably? Any issues?"
Crappy interface, but it works.
"I'm on the verge of getting a PS-02 but would like to have definitive responses to these questions since I'd like to know 1) whether 128 MB or a couple 64 MB cards are better, and 2) if I can get audio from the PS-02 into an audio editor on my PC without hassle."
You can get files onto computer relatively painlessly and once there edit them, or transfer using sound card and patchcord. Either way you'll still want to have a card reader for backing up your card.
Thanks. This is a great forum w/ some great folks.
Huggy bear
oops
March 1 2002, 3:23 PM
Um,make that 1 or 2 64 mb cards, and ignore the cut and past at the bottom of my last post.
Dale R
128 megs worked for me
March 4 2002, 3:40 PM
I read this thread and decided to take the plunge and get a PS-02, and get a 128 meg SmartMedia card.
I REALLY like this little wonder. It's the size of a Klondike ice cream sandwich.
I've logged maybe 12 hours of use so far. (Hey, it's been a busy week!!) I've recorded multiple audio tracks, bounced tracks, set up drum/bass songs, transferred files back and forth between the PS-02 and my computer ---- all on a 128 meg card, and so far it has worked without a burp. I left the PS-02 recording by my elbow while at work, set to low fidelity mode, and it picked up office conversation for about 134 minutes without fussing. I used the "fast forward" feature (play on hold, & cursor up or down) to spot-check the recording, and it seemed fine everywhere. During the recording, I had left marker messages at certain times, and on playback, at those times, there I was! So my vote is 128 megs works. I'm using the 1.10 operating system. I purchased the 128 meg SanDisk card at Costco for $58.00. (Orlando, FL area). I shopped for a reader, and went with a SanDisk USB reader from Best Buy for $23. CompUSA has a house brand USB SmartMedia reader for $20, but I decided to toss an extra $3 at the project because the SanDisk reader included software for installation and file transfer management (I could not tell if the CompUSA reader had software) and I thought if there could possibly be a compatability issue, I'd do better to keep the same brand for card and reader.
So far, I'm thrilled.
Dale R
More on 128 meg
March 24 2002, 4:28 PM
ADDENDUM to 128 meg trial. With a 128 meg card, several times my PS-02 has gotten confused. The symptoms: I can play back anything already recorded, but I can no longer record audio. The word "ERROR" shows on the screen if I try to record audio. I have found that copying the original files back onto the 128 meg card restores recording ability. (I restore these from my computer via a card reader/writer.) I don't know what combination of events causes the problem. I am suspicious it has something to do with using a 128 meg card, so I have purchased a 64 meg card, and will watch to see if it forgets how to record with a 64 in there.
A note on "low fidelity" long play setting --- What low fidelity? It's wonderful! I recorded an mp3 file (a commercially recorded CD of a live concert featuring an acoustic guitar and solo voice, converted to MP3) directly from my computer via a patch cable to the PS-02 in low-fi mono, then transferred it to a cassette (PS-02 via patch cord to cassette deck), and played it in my garden variety car cassette deck. Even after all those "degradations", the sound was clear, crisp, very pleasant. I have successfully recorded over 2 hours of continuous mono in low-fidelity on my 128 meg card, and the sound was really nice to listen to. No noticable hiss or distortion, clear, very easy to hear. Neat!
ddjazz
128 MB smartmedia
May 3 2002, 7:27 PM
I found this thread and wondered if any
other ppl would like to share their
positive/negative experiences with 128
MB cards and the PS-02
John
No prob so far.
May 5 2002, 2:57 PM
I bought a 64 meg card by post and they sent me 128 meg by mistake. I thought I'd try it out and so far no probs. BUT, I haven't actually crossed the 33 minute threshold yet so I'll let ytou know what happens when I do.
128 meg cards do work....
July 10 2002, 11:58 AM
I also heard that the 128 meg cards would not as of yet be supported....however after going to the zoom web site....magically my 128 meg card works now.....go figure....
waa
Re: 128 mb SmartMedia and Fav User Pacthes
December 13 2002, 1:08 AM
Whats the deal? certain cards work and others dont?
Does the assembly line pick and choose some units at random to allow 128 compatibilty?
does the 1.10 version make a difference over 1.00
when did zoom start shipping newer models with the "yellow" 128mb compatible stickers? what version do these newer models use? 1.10? 1.00? or a newer hybird?
armin should also be able to answer what protocal the older models used when accessing memory to help tell us why some cards work and some dont.
If compatiblity is like any other product which uses smart memory , its based on how it address's the memory in writing to disk,
Do different media cards allow for different protocals addressing memory to work while others dont?
Im curious on how some of this products programmers who make money off selling users "editors" will answer these questions, as some of these programs could be adressing the memory read erros when using certain cards.
